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30 March 2007

Sure, I'll Send My Kid to School - Gimme a Fifty

This is just the best.
Seeking new solutions to New York’s vexingly high poverty rates, the city is moving ahead with a bold antipoverty experiment that will pay poor families up to $5,000 a year to meet targets like exemplary school attendance, going for medical checkups or holding down a full-time job, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said today.
A bold plan, indeed. Perhaps even audacious. The only redeeming aspect is that it is only experimental at this point and paid by private funds. They'll be evaluating those who receive the incentives against a control group that doesn't. Assuming that these people are not so irredeemably irresponsible that they won't even bring their kids to a doctor for some cash, the program is bound to be judged a "success." Then no doubt public money will fund this disaster. Immigration realist Heather McDonald explains the problem far more eloquently than I could:
"It could destroy the ordinary incentive system that usually motivates people to engage in good" behavior, she said. "You are going to create in people the expectation that they should do such proper things as take their children to school or study only if they are bribed by the government. I think the potential for unintentional consequences for this program are absolutely enormous."
But hey, it apparently works in Mexico, so what could be the downside?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Incentives to be entitled? Holy crap!

March 30, 2007 10:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who needs eloquence? They are going to pay degenerate fucking criminal minorities to keep being degenerate fucking criminal minorities. I am not shocked at all. Typical of the morons that make social policy in this country. I have no doubt this program will be dubbed a success. Yes, a resounding success! Then they will start using my money for this type of shit. If it isn't bad enough that the state of NJ uses my cash to pay for someone else's rent, food stamps, schooling, after school programs, interventions, and yes their fucking cell phones, cable TV and Escalades which seem to be the most popular car at public housing projects, They no doubt will start this new handout here. The idiots that run this state into the ground are going to love this new giveaway. To ensure that these low class wastes of space will get the same "opportunities" as ther bretheren and sistas in NY City. Why NJ cannot be left behind in adopting cutting edge social policy!
I just knew this kind of shit would come back. Remember when they wanted to pay those TB cases money to take their fucking medicine? They had to pay people to take medicine that would save their life! And sometimes they still wouldn't take the dose! Just fucking let them die! I remember when the welfare cases here got paid more each time they shit out another mouth for me to feed, clothe, school and buy rap music and ringtones for. Finally, in a rare fit of sanity, the NJ State legislature put a stop to it, but the usual suspects flipped out in the usual way. I just knew this would come back. Just wait, NY City will be like it was in the 1970's and 80's and that shit will spill across the Hudson into NJ. Oh, wait, it is already here! Where are Paul Kersey and Bernard Goetz? We will need them. this kind of stuff makes me so angry, but anger is useless. This kind of nonsense is going to usher in a huge crime wave, so buy a gun. Every time the low class gets an inch, they take a mile. After all, they are entitles.

March 30, 2007 2:49 PM  
Blogger ziel said...

this kind of stuff makes me so angry

Well, you hide it well:)

March 31, 2007 12:53 AM  
Blogger Glaivester said...

Can we pay them to get neutered?

April 01, 2007 5:27 PM  
Blogger ziel said...

Good question - are vasectomies on the list of responsible activities? Imagine if the government paid $5,000 for each certified vasectomy (along with the fess for the procedure itself, of course)? Could there be a better investment out there?

April 01, 2007 9:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re vasectomies:

In southern India, my ancestral homeland, they encourage everyone to get sterilized (undergo vasectomy or tubectomy) after having a child or two. As a result, the birthrate is around 2.

April 02, 2007 11:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's say the gov't pays these underprivilidged citizens $5,000 to get sterilized. That sounds like a deal to me. I can only imagine how much it costs to have one of these welfare cases born, the medical care, welfare checks, food stamps, schooling, Section 8 housing, etc...not to mention the savings to society in regards to crime, addiction, anti-social behavior, my propery being stolen, vandalism, and so on. Probably on the order of maybe 10x as much. If the gov't wanted to use tax dollars for this, I'd have absolutely no problem with it. In fact, I'd encourage it it. If some brave politican had this as part of their platform, I'd vote for them on that alone. Of course, some "poverty advocates" would probably not like this idea for the usual reasons.

April 02, 2007 12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like they're getting their ideas from Canada's social welfare system.

Whatever happened to simply being responsible or accountable on your own?

At what point does the $5k stop being paid? When you become responsible? If so, doesn't that defeat the purpose of being responsible?

"I was responsible and look at what they did, they cut off MY $5k"

April 02, 2007 1:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Latest Anonymous,
The whole point of this program is for guilty liberals to hand over money so that they can feel better about themselves. This is modern liberalism/leftism in practice, it is not about making the underclass become responsible. But like I said, they will soon begin to use our money as well, for the good of society, of course. When people like you and me protest this obvious theft of our labor, we will be excoriated in the media as racists, bigots, stingy, judgemental, exploitative rich bastards, mean-spirited, greedy, conservatives/ Republicans, gun-owners or a combination of the above and more.
These people are never, ever going to be responsible. They are low IQ fuck-ups with no future time orientation. The best we can hope for in the current political climate of unbridled liberalism, leftism, "compassionate conservatism" and free handouts (this includes Bush as well and the rest of the so called Republicans) and the rest of the shit that passes for governing these days is that to stop these people from being more destructive and useless than they already are. Shipping them off to say, Cambodia is impossible and in any event, what nation would want this spoiled, whiny, stupid and low class human flotsam? Getting them to stop breeding is the next best hope, but that is probably impossible as well because the leftists and liberals won't allow any voluntary sterilization programs, no matter how much they love abortions. I have always advocated cutting off all of these handouts and either letting these people work for a living or starve, which may take years as obesity is prevelant among them. This kind of shit is just really protection money to keep the underclass from rioting anyway. I say let them riot. I am well armed and I imagine many others are, even in the socialist state of NJ. I can only imagine the hilarity this article was greeted with in the People's Republic of China. As least someone got a laugh out of it.

April 02, 2007 1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey , if it works in Mexico we should definately try it here. George would be very proud of the NY Libs. Maybe this program will encourage the migration of more Mexican illegals to NYC. They could fight healthy males for for dish washing jobs in the city. Poor illegals, they could use the loot too. Can they get paid the 5 spot in cash?
Ziel, do you see 1st generation children of mexicans forging ahead like Asian-Indian, Cuban, Spanish,
etc. The next Mexican President? CEO of General motors? Let's get the illegal parents started on the $5K program- seeding the next generation of successful children-of-immigrants.

April 06, 2007 3:29 PM  

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