President-elect Obama - End This War!
I'm talking the Afghan war. Yes, that's the one that Obama has promised to funnel increased military resources into while reducing our presence in Iraq. Hopefully, that was just Obama blowing smoke up moderates' skirts (although that makes you wonder what else he's been BS'ing the electorate on). Yesterday, a coalition air strike during a firefight ended up blowing up a wedding party (a common problem in Mideast interventions). I mean, is that why we're there - so we can kill random Afghani civilians?
Afghani president Karzai has sent a letter to President-elect Obama demanding the U.S. put an end to civilian casualties. Of course, Karzai wants to have his cake and eat it too. What Karzai really wants is a 15,000-man security force, dedicated to preserving his presidential office. But Karzai has been president for over 6 years - if he hasn't figured out how to consolidate his power, with the presence of the world's most awesome fighting force dedicated to his survival, I'd say his long-term viability is just a tad suspect.
The Taliban, remember, were guilty of harboring the mass murderer bin Laden, not of actually being behind the 9/11 attacks. The longer we stay there fighting, the more glorious will be there eventual return. But as it stands now, there's no end in sight. Iraq looks promising in comparison. I can't imagine there's not some grand deal that could be worked out between the Taliban, Karzai, and the new Pakistani government that will allow for a power-sharing agreement, some large-scale U.S. economic aid, and bin Laden's head on a stake that would satisfy all concerned. Come on Barack, show us some Change.
Afghani president Karzai has sent a letter to President-elect Obama demanding the U.S. put an end to civilian casualties. Of course, Karzai wants to have his cake and eat it too. What Karzai really wants is a 15,000-man security force, dedicated to preserving his presidential office. But Karzai has been president for over 6 years - if he hasn't figured out how to consolidate his power, with the presence of the world's most awesome fighting force dedicated to his survival, I'd say his long-term viability is just a tad suspect.
The Taliban, remember, were guilty of harboring the mass murderer bin Laden, not of actually being behind the 9/11 attacks. The longer we stay there fighting, the more glorious will be there eventual return. But as it stands now, there's no end in sight. Iraq looks promising in comparison. I can't imagine there's not some grand deal that could be worked out between the Taliban, Karzai, and the new Pakistani government that will allow for a power-sharing agreement, some large-scale U.S. economic aid, and bin Laden's head on a stake that would satisfy all concerned. Come on Barack, show us some Change.
posted by ziel | 11/05/2008 08:50:00 PM
7 Comments:
Obama should appoint McCain to work out a deal with the Taliban. The Taliban would like McCain. He can talk a lot about how honor has been served on both sides, that seven years of war is an honorable amount of war, and now it's time for peace.
That's right - he got all lovey-dovey with his former torturers in Vietnam who gleefully beat and let him lay badly injured for months in violation of his precious Geneva Convention. What's a few jihads between friends?
Ziel,
Barack Obama has lived in Hawaii, and made friends with and won over Hawaiians. Obama last saw his father when he was four years old, but presents him as someone of import in his life which wins over the Ophraesque-set. Barack Obama moved to Indonesia and made friends with and won over Indonesians. He won over his Indonesian step-father. Obama moved back to Hawaii and won over his schoolmates at a prestigious and very diverse private school. Obama was raised primarily by his white grandparents, who adored him. Obama went to Columbia and made friends that he "chose carefully" amongst "radicals, Marxists, punks, chicanos, blacks, etc.". Obama was also able to befriend the WASPS and Jews at Harvard and clearly won them over.
Obama made common cause and broke bread with Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn and the far left fellow travellers in their own homes. They love and support him also.
Obama won over and befriended and donated a lot of money to Jerimiah T. Wright. Think about the things you'd have to agree with in Wright's presence to win the approval of such a person Ziel. Not pretty is it?
Obama has probably had that mistress we are hearing about, so he has no doubt been pulling the wool over Michelle's eyes, the mother of his two kids, for a while also. Obama admits to smoking some pot in Hawaii and I doubt he did it alone. I wonder what the "get high" buddies heard from him to make them think it was "safe" to light up with him?
My point is that none of us know what this dude is really about. He cant really be all things to all people. Steve Sailer has brought up De Gaulle's remark "I have heard you" made to the Algerians before the French moved on them, but I think I missed Steve's inference in its full weight.
There is no telling what Barack Obama really intends to pursue in the fullness of the two terms that he expects to get as our president. Im "guessing" that he will want to keep the media on his side during his first term, but in his last term, especially his last two years........I bet he wont give a fuck and we will see what he really is about.
Mr. Sailer, who is about the only journalist to try and really figure out Obama, probably knows more about the guy than any talking head on TV by a long shot. I have a feeling some mainstream conservatives and even some establishment liberals are going to be blindsided by a few of the things Obama seems to back because they simply didn't look deep enough into the water before this guy got elected.
I think Barack Obama is wickedly smart when it comes to assuaging people's fears and "playing" them. Con artists have a saying, "the smarter they are, the harder they fall". I hope that doesn't prove to be the case for the 61 million-plus people who voted for Obama, but McCain didn't give them much choice.
What do you think the anti-war George Soros thinks about the appointment of the very pro-war Rahm Emmanuel as chief-of-staff this afternoon? Think move-on.org is pleased with that? Another one under the bus?
I have no idea what Obama will push for, or even if he will try to have a big "first 100 days". He might even try to play that cool as to win the trust of those who would be his biggest detractors, and indeed may throw a bone or two the right's way before really exerting the power of the executive branch for his own real purposes.
I do know one thing though. He is very smart, and probably smarter than some of the folks in the media who think that they can Pavlovian-control him with praise/"concern".
M
What's a few jihads between friends?
Yeah, it's not like their Republicans.
I know it might be hard to remember why we went to war in those two countries in the first case, but if it was as a result of 911, then Iraq looking "promising in comparison" isn´t justification for staying there. At least not in the real world we appear to be coming back to.
No - we should leave both Iraq and Aghanistan. I think sentiment for getting out of Afghanistan is growing by the day.
We need to get out. It is even more land locked and less of a real nation than Iraq. The only thing it had going for it was some quick punishment for harboring OBL. Plus the off chance of finding OBL. Staying there is not helping our interests.
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