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15 July 2005

What About Karl Rove?

The news reports are rather confusing and conflicting on whether Rove was the source of the leak or whether he knew Valerie Plame was a covert agent, so it's hard to come to a conclusion at this time as to whether Karl Rove would actually undermine American security to score some political points. Are there any past actions that would suggest Rove might be so inclined? For example, would Rove ever do anything like undermine the enforcement of immigration laws and border security and undercut Americans' wages just to score some cheap political points among corporate interests looking for cheap labor? If so, that might be a clue as to what might have happened in this case.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zeil, here is the only answer to any question about Bush' re-election process with respect to Rove and the Spanish vote:

Mokhiber: Whose idea was it?

Scott McClellan: Certainly, Karl is a senior advisor to the President of the United States.

Mokhiber: Whose idea was it?

Rove's dummy!!It was Rove's idea to secure the Spanish vote- at any cost.

Look out America, the Mexican flood gates are wide open!

July 15, 2005 5:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This yet another absurd Washington story. Of course it was Rove. I don't think he felt he was undermining National Security, just taking a swat at that pesky Joe Wilson.
What will be interesting will be to see if Bush carries out his public vow to fire whoever the leaker is.
That, too, is simply handled. Rove may soon decide to resign so he can spend some more quality time with his family, ala Karen Hughes. Does anyone think she stopped advising Brainless during her hiatus? Rove doesn't need an "official" position to continue directing, er, advising Bush. I mean, it seems clear that Bush gets some military advice from reading Beetle Bailey and I don't think the guy who writes that is on the White House payroll.
I'm curious to see when the potential Republican Pres candidates start to break ranks. They must be feeling internal pressure to begin distancing themselves from Bush as he continues to fade. But for the diehards who will support the Pres as long as war is on, Bush will be the lamest duck in a long time.

July 15, 2005 6:34 PM  
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July 15, 2005 7:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless there´s another "smoking gun" I don´t see Bush dumping Rove and it sure doesn´t look like there´s enough to indict. Besides, Rove´s already got the (his) R machinery calling for him to be given a medal.

Hey, anyone read the bit about this Rep. Poe from Texas who visited Gitmo saying that the inmates there have it made? Even some of the cells have sea views. Obviously all of this hasn´t derailed Rove in the least.

July 16, 2005 5:44 AM  
Blogger ziel said...

Drumming up sympathy for prisoners at Gitmo - or even discomfort - is not going to be easy in a country used to turning its collective head while defenseless, weak inmates are routinely gang-banged in their own prisons.

July 18, 2005 10:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your weak inmates, in theory have at least had due process, unlike the Gitmo vacationers.

July 23, 2005 9:15 PM  
Blogger ziel said...

I'm not saying what we're doing in Gitmo is good or bad - I'm ambivalent - but I'm pretty sure that the American people don't give a damn about what happens to the prisoners in Gitmo.

July 23, 2005 11:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Duly noted.

A nice piece by Frank Rich in today´s NYT.

I would agree that this little scandal isn´t going to go away any sooner than the the insurgents actually being in their "last throes."

Watergate didn´t seem like a big deal at first either. It was Nixon´s career resilience that finally did him in. Could the same work for Bush, or is that just alot of wishful thinking on my part?

By the way, what is it about Rove and gays? I always thought he himself had something in the closet.

July 24, 2005 4:54 AM  
Blogger ziel said...

I don't know anything about Rove and Gays. A quick google search turned up some speculation that he's gay and what appears to be some accusations that he's anti-gay because of the gay marriage issue. While I wouldn't be shocked that a guy like Rove would be gay, I'd be really shocked that a guy like Rove wouldn't have been outed by now if he were.

July 24, 2005 8:56 AM  

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